Well, I’VE been saying that the casting of Matt Damon doesn’t make sense either and I’ve seen a few YouTube comments saying the same. It’s just that we’re not famous, so you’ve not heard from us. But there are some people who have noticed that much of the casting is ridiculous all along. I find these casting choices to be immersion breaking. More importantly it’s disgraceful, from a social perspective. It’s as if they’re saying that it would be BETTER if Helen is black. It’s not better or worse, but the suggestion makes me and many others angry. Back to it being immersion breaking; if I see non white characters in a King Arthur, or any other European fable/legend based movie, it will break the immersion and I will like the movie much less. If at all. Why in Gods green Earth would we need white people in a Mulan movie, either? I have no doubt that Nolan’s exceptional filmmaking standards are on full display and that he subverted some progressive ideas in this film. I’m still not going to reward these people with my money.
Gettin’ a lot of likes… Has anyone watched Nerdrotic’s review? This film will make a good chunk of change, when you include the back end. But could’ve made much, much more if they didn’t piss most conservatives off with identity politics buffoonery…
Wow! Thanks, Winston. This is one of the best film reviews I've read in a long time. I was planning to see this movie, anyway, simply because it's THE ODYSSEY, but now I look forward to seeing it even more. Can't wait!
Love this, Winston. I’ve read a couple wonderful essays concerning this version and ignored many others. I am delighted that Nolan has opened eyes, ears and minds to exploring this extraordinary work, language, art, and history. I pray it’s contagious.
Wow, this is a really interesting take! I'm seeing it tomorrow and honestly was not looking forward to a torrent of woke being thrust in my face. I'll enjoy it much more now, so thank you!
It's hard not to see that he did this with Ellen Page. But surely he risks being pilloried? And having the whole movie being made about this casting choice. Though that would, I guess, mean the world admitting that the emperor has no clothes?
And Helen. At first read, I was far from convinced, but other than him thinking "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", maybe you're right. A fascinating way of looking at it. Though "ugly on the inside" is perhaps too far of a stretch in his thinking?
I disagree with you, though, in that I find a smattering of Asian/black soldiers in a sea of white soldiers to be distracting. It pulls me back into the current world and pushes too far on suspension of disbelief. Main characters can be a different thing, as they quickly develop through their speech, and if they are good actors, what they look like can become unimportant (think Judi Dench as "M" in Bond). But for non-speaking roles, all we have is what they look like. So a Chinese person in an ancient Greek army does not work for me.
eh, I don't subscribe the the esoteric reading of the casting of Lupita Nyong’o as Helen of Troy. If the most beautiful woman in the world had been cast as anything but a dark skinned black woman, there would be a stink about it -- and who wants a stink?
Well, I’VE been saying that the casting of Matt Damon doesn’t make sense either and I’ve seen a few YouTube comments saying the same. It’s just that we’re not famous, so you’ve not heard from us. But there are some people who have noticed that much of the casting is ridiculous all along. I find these casting choices to be immersion breaking. More importantly it’s disgraceful, from a social perspective. It’s as if they’re saying that it would be BETTER if Helen is black. It’s not better or worse, but the suggestion makes me and many others angry. Back to it being immersion breaking; if I see non white characters in a King Arthur, or any other European fable/legend based movie, it will break the immersion and I will like the movie much less. If at all. Why in Gods green Earth would we need white people in a Mulan movie, either? I have no doubt that Nolan’s exceptional filmmaking standards are on full display and that he subverted some progressive ideas in this film. I’m still not going to reward these people with my money.
Fair
Immersion breaking is well said. The casting choices just make me aware I’m watching a curated package vs losing myself in it.
Gettin’ a lot of likes… Has anyone watched Nerdrotic’s review? This film will make a good chunk of change, when you include the back end. But could’ve made much, much more if they didn’t piss most conservatives off with identity politics buffoonery…
Wow! Thanks, Winston. This is one of the best film reviews I've read in a long time. I was planning to see this movie, anyway, simply because it's THE ODYSSEY, but now I look forward to seeing it even more. Can't wait!
No thanks. Hollywood is dead and has been for at least a decade.
Love this, Winston. I’ve read a couple wonderful essays concerning this version and ignored many others. I am delighted that Nolan has opened eyes, ears and minds to exploring this extraordinary work, language, art, and history. I pray it’s contagious.
The positive reviews are being faked and everybody knows that by now.
Wow, this is a really interesting take! I'm seeing it tomorrow and honestly was not looking forward to a torrent of woke being thrust in my face. I'll enjoy it much more now, so thank you!
It's hard not to see that he did this with Ellen Page. But surely he risks being pilloried? And having the whole movie being made about this casting choice. Though that would, I guess, mean the world admitting that the emperor has no clothes?
And Helen. At first read, I was far from convinced, but other than him thinking "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", maybe you're right. A fascinating way of looking at it. Though "ugly on the inside" is perhaps too far of a stretch in his thinking?
I disagree with you, though, in that I find a smattering of Asian/black soldiers in a sea of white soldiers to be distracting. It pulls me back into the current world and pushes too far on suspension of disbelief. Main characters can be a different thing, as they quickly develop through their speech, and if they are good actors, what they look like can become unimportant (think Judi Dench as "M" in Bond). But for non-speaking roles, all we have is what they look like. So a Chinese person in an ancient Greek army does not work for me.
Yes, most thoughtful Winston.
eh, I don't subscribe the the esoteric reading of the casting of Lupita Nyong’o as Helen of Troy. If the most beautiful woman in the world had been cast as anything but a dark skinned black woman, there would be a stink about it -- and who wants a stink?